STP 48 Wise Practice Summit Reaction Show
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Welcome to the scaling therapy practice. This is James Marland. Your host to this episode is going to be different than other episodes because this is a live reaction episode. To a conference. When I went to in Georgia was the wise practice summit. Put on by Whitney Owens. It was a great conference.
Lots of information in brain busting. Ideas that came from it. But the most thing that I appreciated, the thing that I appreciated the most was the relationships that networking with the relationships. And.
I sat down with a couple of people and during the conference and we talked about. What we were experiencing at the conference and what we were getting out of it. And I thought this was a great. Just something to inject into our conversation on marketing. Going to a conferences and an investment. And the relationships, even though the things that you hear from the. The speakers and the notes you take are very valuable.
The relationships are often the most valuable thing that you get out of a conference. Besides from that though, I had some conversations near the end of the episode with Dawn and with Daniel fava. About just how do you Deek? Decompress your brain after a conference and get some valuable information from that and not just go to the conference. But actually maximize your return on investment with some thinking time.
So we talk about that and that's actually what our our giveaway or our download of the week is. It's just a reflection guide. Were you. Take some purposeful notes during the conference, write down some goals. Do some daily reflection, maybe five or 10 minutes about what you were learning. And then after the conference you do an action. An action brainstorming.
What were the top three things you learned? What should you stop doing? Keep doing, do more of and some networking pages, like who should you continue to network with and develop those relationships? I think most of us. End up at a conference, just overwhelmed and over full. And we don't, we just. Run right back to the daily. thE things we used to do. The daily grind, as you would call it. And then that diminishes our return from the conference because we don't really engage with all those. Ideas and action steps and like brain brainstorming. Activities that we. We could have done. After the conference, we just go back right back to the grind.
So that's what the handout is for, to help people get a little more out of the conference and you can find that. On our show notes, if you're a newsletter subscriber, those will be delivered right to your inbox. I did want to thank the people who showed up for our live recording. At the conference. Daniel fava from private practice, elevation Gordon brewer from the practice of therapy. Alaina Smith, a solo practitioner.
She says that the name of her practice in the episode And Lorinda Meyerland my plus one for the conference. My wife showed up and gave her experience that she works as a virtual assistant for therapy company. So that was awesome. There was one other person who contributed, but my mic cut out and I didn't get their names.
So if you're listening to this episode, I am so sorry, but thank you. For showing up. So we're going to get into the episode. It's a round, pass the mic type of episode. Where we just go around and share our experiences from the conference. And just some live reactions to. Marketing and networking at conferences. Enjoy the show.
[00:05:31] James Marland: This is James from the scaling therapy practice. Podcast. I am live here in Savannah, Georgia with some friends we're going to record. A live reaction show to the wise practice summit. This is going to be like a pass the microphone kind of episode, where whoever just shows up and wants to give a reaction to the show will share their thoughts, feelings, and takeaways. From the episode, you might hear some. Or from the summit, you might hear some elevator noise and digging and maybe people walking by. But other than that, I think we should be good with the sound and sound quality. So this is going to sound a little different than the regular. Episodes, but we hope to get some good reactions and takeaways from the guests. We're going to pass the microphone around and listen and get some reaction from people from the wise practice summit. Talking about Wise Practice Summit, or are we talking about So my I'm going to talk about conferences and attending a conference and coming to the Wise Practice Summit.
[00:06:34] James Marland: It's not a podcast, it's the Wise Practice Summit. It made me think about things. And one of the, one of the things I liked it was the first session, boy, it all kind of jumbles together, but it was a Williams session on imposter syndrome. And just how he was like real and had great advice.
[00:06:51] James Marland: And he spoke, even though, uh, one of the things he said was, I have we're a room full of people with degrees and accomplishments, but we still feel like we're not as good as other people. And we don't we don't credit our own accomplishments. And he had us like, say out loud, like something like, I am good enough, or God has a purpose for me or some sort of audience participation.
[00:07:15] James Marland: And I thought that was really good and impactful and just saying it out loud. Was a good moment for me. It's something I'm gonna remember 'cause it was all, everybody in the room saying what was going on. That was one of the things I liked about the conference. I'm gonna pass it to the next person. Okay. So this is Daniel Fava from private practice, elevation. com. I think for me, it's really hard to say what's the session that was most impactful. I'm different in this in this, um, conference because I'm a sponsor, so I'm coming at it from two angles. So I'm learning as a business owner.
[00:07:55] James Marland: And I'm not a therapist too. So it's, I've got this different lens. So I'm taking what I'm learning and hearing from the other speakers about, how am I going to apply this to my own business? So there's just so many pieces that I'm pulling into my own business, but I'm able to dip in and dip out and just connect with people.
[00:08:11] James Marland: And I think that is probably been the most The most fun and probably the most inspiring is really just connecting with other business owners, connecting with the speakers, connecting with the other sponsors. And I was talking to Danica from Simplified SEO about this, how everyone's got like a gift that they're.
[00:08:32] James Marland: Operating in or that they're bringing to the table. And so I feel like everyone's just recognizing the gifts that people have. And we're all, we're working together. Cause like for private practice elevation, we do websites for therapists, but like we're connecting on this different level where it's okay, you have this gift about websites.
[00:08:48] James Marland: Okay. That could help me. And okay, you help me understand how can we serve you better, or what are your challenges and that sort of thing. So it's just humanizing everybody because we get so Or I get so, just in your, in the bubble at home, working working from home, you only see people from the neck up on zoom and all that sort of stuff.
[00:09:06] James Marland: Yeah. Yeah. And so it's just yeah, it's just great to connect with people who are. In the trenches with, successes, failures, whatever it is, like everyone has been so open and just gracious to just connect on that level. And so that just I think for everybody just builds confidence and yeah, it's just, I love the connection.
[00:09:27] James Marland: We're just going around and saying, yeah, what's up, something we've learned, I'm going to switch the microphone to all the way around so we can maybe get reactions. Here you go. Go, just introduce yourself and Just something you're, just something you want to say about the conference or conferences in general.
[00:09:44] James Marland: All right. Hi, this is Gordon Brewer and I'm a private practice owner. And some folks might know me from the practice of therapy podcast. But yeah, this has been a great conference. What you probably have heard from some of the others is that just being able to connect with people face to face is just a huge value to me.
[00:10:07] James Marland: And. Just getting to hear everybody's stories and just where they are in their journey is just you learn so much and it's I think one of the things that that we all crave is community. And I think, in this age of, just video conferencing and zoom living, if you will that's great, but there's something better about being in, being with people in person.
[00:10:33] James Marland: And just really, yeah the perspectives you hear talking to the other businesses and that are here represented with the sponsors and that sort of thing, just getting those multiple perspectives are just, um, invaluable. And I think every time I come to a conference like this one, come away with new ideas, new ways of thinking about things and really just energized.
[00:11:00] James Marland: With motivation and, um, and an excitement about trying some new things. Yeah, so it's been a great experience. Okay. I'm Elena Smith and I'm a solo private practice owner of Mariposa Counseling. And I think for me, one of the biggest takeaways has been, I think I've kept myself small in a lot of ways. Like it's comfortable going out on my own and being my own person, but then. Also having that drive of knowing I could be or do more, and I think that's where like the imposter syndrome talk or even just the opportunities to like, you were like, hey, you want to be a guest on podcast?
[00:11:34] James Marland: I'm like, I've never done that. Let's go for it. So it's just like the connections and the people and doing different things. And then I think the biggest takeaway for me has just been like, just go for it. Just do it. Don't keep yourself small because that also limits God and it limits all of those chances.
[00:11:49] James Marland: And William was talking about it. We have something for everyone. I think almost every single session, it's amazing how they've all had this speaking of God has put something in you to fulfill a purpose for someone or something and recognizing when I keep myself small, I take away from what that work could be.
[00:12:04] James Marland: And so I think even Desiree's presentation on social media where she was like, Hey, get on Facebook and ask everyone on your friend list what they admire about you. And that's terrifying to do, but I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it. Cause she told me to, and I'm also sitting in the front row, but there was this like immediacy.
[00:12:19] James Marland: And just even sitting through the session, I'm getting dings on my phone and just seeing the things that friends and family people I would not have expected to say about me you expect your mom to immediately get on and talk, but when I realized the impact I have, even in that small vein, I think it really helps me to.
[00:12:33] James Marland: Want to dream big. And that's where like Gordon said, that community comes in of being with other people and being able to connect. And there's something exciting about other people who are going for it and being around other people who are going after their mission. Just a question. Let's see if I hopefully the mic picks it up.
[00:12:49] James Marland: This is like podcasting in the wild, who knows not in the studio, but the perfectionist, like where what is the barrier of. For me, I know it's like perfectionism Oh, I don't want to release something that's embarrassing or not good enough. What do you think it is for you?
[00:13:07] James Marland: For me, I think it's just the visibility. You're just exposed out there and raw and That can be painful and you don't know what people are going to do with what you've put out there. And I think just that, that lack of control maybe is a piece of it, right? But there's that perfectionist piece too of I want to present myself exactly just and if I don't do it just right, how are people going to interpret me? I hope either of you want to answer that. Yeah, I think, it's tell me your name. Elena. Elena was talking about Williams. William Hemphill's talk on imposter syndrome. I think that's something I struggle with every day.
[00:13:48] James Marland: And I think it does go back to this perfectionistic kind of way of thinking of things. But over the years, I've learned and I, as I like to say, I'm going to put my old fart hat on. Over the years, I've just learned that just being genuine with people is really much more effective than trying to get it perfect all the time.
[00:14:09] James Marland: Because there will always be naysayers and that sort of thing. But I think being able to put yourself out there, being able to let ourselves be vulnerable with others is how we grow and is how we really learn. And it also. Is what connects us to others as well. And again, that's a big theme for me with coming to conferences like this.
[00:14:32] James Marland: And being able to hear those multiple perspectives, as I said, already is really what induces growth. Yeah. I think for me, like back to what I originally said is just that connection piece, being able to connect with people. That, you see online or you think you come up with these ideas in your head that are, yes, it's true.
[00:14:56] James Marland: Gordon's got this podcast that's been established. He's got, he's coming up on 300 episodes, and then, there's Uriah. He's got a book, like people doing amazing things. And so then you start to think what am I doing? What am I doing? But then when you get around everybody and you're just hanging out and you're having a meal or you're talking about.
[00:15:12] James Marland: Yeah, I'm struggling with this in my business or they're talking to me about what they're struggling in their business. It's like we are all in this together, like we are all having a shared experience. And so you come away from it like, Oh, like it's totally normal, like it's totally normal to be dealing with whatever you're dealing with.
[00:15:28] James Marland: And I think also like back to imposter syndrome, I think for me. That's a lot of the times comes down to control. I want to control what's going to happen, manage my own anxiety. So you end up staying small because it's, Oh, this is just how I've done this for years. And so I've had a couple of conversations where I probably need to hire that person that I've been thinking about for a long time and give up that control.
[00:15:51] James Marland: sO what I was getting from that is you can't get that in a zoom meeting, like this conference experience where you're talking about, Oh, being vulnerable and learning about. Like people have their own that we're all struggling in this together. What you just see on Facebook or in zoom meetings, or you're mentioned like this comparison trap Oh I don't have a book.
[00:16:10] James Marland: I don't have a podcast that has 300 episodes or a thousand downloads a month or something, but we're all. So you only see the polished stuff and in conferences you get. Like the raw, this is, I'm struggling with this and I also find I have more ideas at conferences. I don't know about you, but sometimes I struggle, like the speaker will say something in, and I'm like, my mind is like, Oh, I haven't thought about it that way.
[00:16:37] James Marland: And then I will go down a rabbit trail and write a bunch of notes and just have these ideas that I wouldn't have had just sit, sitting in my office, plugging away at the work. So the comparison trap though is pretty, pretty real and I, that's like the imposter syndrome that somebody else reaching for the mic switching, switching subjects a little bit. Lorinda, you came. As my guest, as my plus one how do you get the most out of a conference as a guest? So I get a lot just listening to people. I work in the virtual assistant world. So it's interesting like hearing the perspectives of like therapists in person, seeing where they're at.
[00:17:27] James Marland: It gives me a better perspective to go back to my team and say, Hey, This is what therapists struggle with. This is how we can help them. This is how we can better serve them. And and I get to learn a lot too about just different topics that could help them grow their business as well.
[00:17:42] James Marland: So it, it's a good experience all around and meeting new people. So it's always nice to meet new people and get out of my virtual world and see people in person. So that's what I get out of it.
[00:17:58] James Marland: So what do you do? After the, like, how do you make the most of a conference after the conference sessions are over? How do you network? What are some tips you'd have for networking? I think some of it is in real time. So I know like even just at lunch yesterday, Eunice, one of the other therapists was like, what's your Instagram handle?
[00:18:20] James Marland: And like me and three other people were all sitting there. And so we all mutually shared and everyone immediately followed everyone. And and I was laughing because every time I opened Facebook, I have new friend requests. And some of them, I'm like, I saw you from across the room and I don't think we've spoken yet, but okay.
[00:18:33] James Marland: So it's just that great. Like you make those connections, but then you realize them in that real time way. Because if I'm thinking like, Oh, I have to remember to look up this person. Like I have so many open tabs on my. Google Chrome right now of all the sponsors and all the websites and every email list I could sign up for that I don't even know what I'm on right now, but I'll go back and I'll categorize them all and look at them, but I think it is, I have to do it in real time or I won't do it. When you mentioned taking notes, one of the things that I try to remember to do is to actually go back and look at my notes. I think a lot of times I'm bad for writing stuff down and then not really going back to it. So I think. One of the things that's helpful for me after a conference is to spend some time, maybe the next day when I get back home is pull out all my notes.
[00:19:18] James Marland: And just maybe either rewrite them or just reflect on them, do some journaling, that kind of thing. Really helps me pull things together and really think about, maybe some new goals for myself, new things that I want to try or new directions I want to go. The other thing too is just I was fortunate enough to be able, I, fortunate or unfortunate enough to be able to drive here.
[00:19:40] James Marland: So I've got a six and a half hour drive back home. So that'll be a lot of good reflecting time for me. I, I'm one of those people that's basically wired as an introvert. So being able to have that reflective time is really helpful. Yeah, for me, it's definitely going back to or actually just spending the time to write down ideas, write down goals that may be popped up.
[00:20:06] James Marland: Oh, I really want to do this, really want to work on this. And then the other part is. Trying to continue the conversations that started here. How do you do that? Yeah, I want to do that too. So do you have any tips? I'll get into that. So again, it starts with notes. I'm going to write down.
[00:20:21] James Marland: Okay. I had this conversation with this person or I talked to them. I gotta have you on my podcast. So it's just, It's getting that list down and start going through it and reconnecting with people couple of people. I got their phone numbers. So follow up with a text or just remember that they're there, to continue those conversations.
[00:20:39] James Marland: And not let, I think for me, I can walk away and just let time go by and just You get into your flow, you get into your life and kids and all the other stuff. But remembering that, okay, I've got these conversations that have started. So I'm like a task oriented person.
[00:20:53] James Marland: So
[00:20:55] James Marland: Who sound, and then we'll just cut right in to this episode. nobody will know. It'll be like she was there all the all along.
[00:21:06] Dawn Gabriel: I was totally there.
[00:21:08] James Marland: But yeah, we were talking about after conferences and Dawn, you were talking about just nobody prepares you for the how you're gonna feel after a conference. Do you wanna talk about that for a minute?
[00:21:20] Dawn Gabriel: Yeah, so I think it's different if you're an attendee. Or the person putting on a conference. But either way, you need to be prepared for, I used to call it reentry burns. Like you know when space shuttle is coming back into the atmosphere of Earth and you like it burns off. That's what it's like sometimes because conferences are so fun, so stimulating, like so the conversations are rich.
[00:21:45] Dawn Gabriel: They're, you're with your people usually. And these are not boring conferences, we're talking about the really good conferences or also a retreat. And so I put on my first Soul Care retreat, my very first one, and no one prepared me that the week after that I needed to take some time off from work. So get back on Sunday
[00:22:04] James Marland: Oh no.
[00:22:04] Dawn Gabriel: I go to work Monday and I.
[00:22:07] Dawn Gabriel: Was resentful. I like, hated everyone. And I went into a depressive funk, , and it's because like you're back to the grind of real life and the monotony. And it's not like this high, like you're in a you're in a high socially, high.
[00:22:23] James Marland: yeah. There's so much to, to do and see and in the in, in the event I just went to I had all these ideas, like idea, oh, this person was talking about coaching and this person was talking about imposter syndrome and this person was talking about leading and oh, I'm like writing all these notes.
[00:22:40] James Marland: And then you get back to your work and you're like, oh, this is. Not the same. It's just a different level.
[00:22:49] Dawn Gabriel: Yeah. And yeah, 'cause. You're a little, you feel a little more alone. You also, some that I've talked to people, there's the comparison game goes on and so
[00:22:59] James Marland: Oh no. Yeah.
[00:23:00] James Marland: you're
[00:23:01] Dawn Gabriel: in your head too much. Now I have 20 more ideas to put on my to-do list, and I don't feel like doing any of 'em.
[00:23:06] Dawn Gabriel: 'cause I can barely get the 20 before done. And so there's like just so much in your head you gotta deal with and it's like a funk. Yeah, a depressive funk,
[00:23:17] James Marland: S So how do you deal with that? 'cause it first, I guess knowing it's gonna happen is actually a good awareness. It's not gonna happen. It's it's gonna have like almost every time. I bet. When you come back, when you come back from a good conference. You're gonna feel either, oh, I'm not doing enough, or, oh, I don't, I, why am I doing this work?
[00:23:39] James Marland: 'cause I wanna do this other work that we were talking conference. And how do you prepare for that?
[00:23:45] Dawn Gabriel: Yeah, I think, like you said, awareness is huge. Like know it's coming and you need to prepare for it. So take make sure you don't have, you need to take the day off the after. Or if it's I came back on Saturday night and I had Sunday with my kids 'cause my husband works on Sunday. I'M like, we're gonna watch a movie.
[00:24:04] Dawn Gabriel: We're gonna be in pajamas all day. I'm gonna order food, like I, just it really chill. deFinitely don't work the next day, maybe even two days, depending if you're leading a conference, you might need to take a couple days off or a week just because you need to recoup. It's like running.
[00:24:20] Dawn Gabriel: I don't know if anybody's a runner, but I used to run half marathons and your body needs to recover. But emotionally too, you hit a goal and you hit this level that you've been prepping for. And . Your brain automatically goes into a different level of disconnect when you're done because you hit it now what?
[00:24:40] James Marland: You know what I wish I would've done, I I would've set aside time to, like I have like random pages of notes and things. I wish I would've set aside time to either organize it or put a couple goals on the calendar or goal like. And not just be like, oh, I'll just do this when I do my normal
[00:24:58] Dawn Gabriel: Yeah.
[00:24:59] James Marland: planning or whatever.
[00:25:00] James Marland: There's just too much.
[00:25:01] Dawn Gabriel: Yeah. You know what? I was actually talking with quite a few people, um, that we feel what's missing from conferences is the actual application. We conferences
[00:25:11] James Marland: a hundred percent.
[00:25:11] Dawn Gabriel: yeah. Should have space and time in the afternoons or evening breakout sessions where you sit and you put it into work so it like coworking together and so you actually
[00:25:24] Dawn Gabriel: Sit together and work it out with your business and you do it. Or a week after you have follow-up breakout sessions with some of the leaders like who led the, like you run a mastermind group off of it. That's what's missing is the application afterwards.
[00:25:41] James Marland: And if it's targeted like a niched retreat or something and you and everybody does very similar content, then you can have a co-working session that's very targeted
[00:25:52] James Marland: Where, Hey, we're gonna implement, like for me, it'd be like if I did one, we're gonna, we're gonna add courses, we're gonna add online courses, and then the coworking would be okay.
[00:26:04] James Marland: Do a little assessment, where are you with that and what are the steps that will take you to the next level? then you're all working together in, in the same space, doing the same thing. I wonder, I'm sure that could be done after Hey, part of the conferences is we're gonna zoom in together, but I bet it's, it would be a little better doing it. Together. I you done either or both? Just part of the conference okay, we're gonna, we're gonna, this isn't extra, this is part of the conference. We're gonna, we're gonna work in a day of whatever. And maybe start the conference. So I'm just balling here. I'm just throwing out ideas.
[00:26:46] James Marland: But maybe you start the conference instead of starting it on a Thursday. You started on a Wednesday or a Tuesday, run the conference, in the middle part of the week, and then have that Saturday
[00:26:58] Dawn Gabriel: yeah.
[00:26:59] James Marland: as your coworking day. And then Sunday is a travel day. I know that's long and that might get expensive, but it's,
[00:27:06] Dawn Gabriel: No, I actually have some good friends who are going to just watch It's coming out next
[00:27:11] James Marland: okay. I'm
[00:27:12] Dawn Gabriel: watching.
[00:27:12] Dawn Gabriel: Yeah, I and one of two of my friends, Christie and Steph, they do the practice collab. They just launch coworking weekends where we do this more smaller, like five to six people.
[00:27:25] Dawn Gabriel: pick a city, they pick a city, and we all show up and co-work together.
[00:27:29] James Marland: Oh, cool. the weekend? Yeah.
[00:27:31] Dawn Gabriel: It's group practice owners, but I also know I won't give it away, but one of my other friends is gonna be starting a conference, like what we just talked about, that's what's missing. Especially if you've been to a million conferences and you're farther along in your practice, like you probably could teach a lot of the stuff that's and you need to actually work it out.
[00:27:51] Dawn Gabriel: That's needed.
[00:27:53] James Marland: it's definitely the application
[00:27:54] James Marland: If I might. Implement one or two ideas from the conference. But if I spent time thinking about how to build it out and had some accountability and support,
[00:28:07] Dawn Gabriel: eh
[00:28:07] James Marland: It's
[00:28:09] James Marland: be that much further along. Just to you, your return on investment, I know we talk about that, but like it's good building the relationships, but also you wanna get.
[00:28:18] James Marland: You wanna get some applicable business things from the conference. If it's a business conference or if it's like a new, you're adding something to your therapy. Alright. Any I know you did a podcast on this, right? Yeah.
[00:28:33] Dawn Gabriel: It's coming out or it's probably out by the time this goes live. It's called postpartum. No. Oh my gosh. I'm so
[00:28:39] James Marland: postpartum,
[00:28:40] Dawn Gabriel: Sorry. I'm so used to saying postpartum working with
[00:28:42] James Marland: women. It's
[00:28:44] Dawn Gabriel: post-conference blues, not postpartum blues, but very similar post-conference blues.
[00:28:50] James Marland: What is E what to do? Episode 1 0 3. 1
[00:28:54] Dawn Gabriel: I 1 0 3.
[00:28:56] James Marland: Yeah.
[00:28:56] James Marland: All right. I'll put a link to it
[00:28:58] Dawn Gabriel: Yeah.
[00:28:59] Dawn Gabriel: AnD that one's more of a spiritual look at it because the conference I just came off of was more spiritual and faith-based. So definitely gonna talk about our longings and how we are but not and more into spiritual stuff
[00:29:11] James Marland: All I'm looking forward to that. Thanks for joining me for this wrap up post-conference wrap up. It was really good. I'm really you brought this to my it just helps me understand why I feel like, why I was in such a big fog,
[00:29:26] Dawn Gabriel: Yes. It's so
[00:29:27] James Marland: true.
[00:29:27] James Marland: afterwards.
[00:29:29] Dawn Gabriel: Not just you. Every single person I've talked to this week, same. And we're all lonely. We're missing everyone.
[00:29:35] James Marland: I know.
[00:29:35] James Marland: It was so much fun all.
[00:29:37] Dawn Gabriel: Yeah.
[00:29:38] James Marland: See ya.
[00:29:39] James Marland: Thanks for listening to the show. I hope you got some insights about getting the most from attending a conference and maybe some after action plans. I think we play, it's such a rush to plan for a conference and to go to a conference and to meet the people. But the real work, the real benefit is what do you do afterwards?
[00:30:04] James Marland: And I hope this episode helped you or encourage you to do a little more after networking after action planning. Make sure you grab the download that just has some ideas on how to do it.
[00:30:18] James Marland: At the beginning of the episode, there was a therapist, Elena Smith. I had forgotten her practice, her therapy practice. It's a Mariposa counseling LLC.
[00:30:28] James Marland: And I put that in the show notes. If you wanted to check her out,
[00:30:31] James Marland: One of my big takeaways after doing the recording and re-listening to the episode is after a conference, I really got to set aside some time to talk about maybe. The one thing I want to get done from this conference. Maybe some people would say three things, the top three things, but I know if I get, sometimes if I get, just get one thing done. It impacts everything.
[00:30:55] James Marland: So what's the most important thing I need to get done. And then maybe three people who can be my accountability partner. And who knows. That could turn into a great networking resource for you. Because everyone goes into these conferences wants to develop a relationships. They want to network and they want to get the most out of it.
[00:31:14] James Marland: So if you have this idea, Hey, I'm going to. I'm going to go. I got one thing to work on. Let's meet monthly and talk about this one thing. And fee where it goes. See what relationships. Come from that. And you, I know if you have that accountability. You will get more done than without it.
[00:31:35] James Marland: Thanks for listening to the show.
[00:31:36] James Marland: Remember. We do give our opinions. This show is for education and entertainment purposes. Only if you need support with legal issues or accounting, please seek a professional in those areas. The scaling therapy practice is a proud part of the side craft network.
